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	<title>Comments on: More Heartwarming Misogyny from the Right Wing</title>
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		<title>By: lauredhel</title>
		<link>http://sufficientscruples.com/blog/2008/10/24/more-heartwarming-misogyny-from-the-right-wing/comment-page-1/#comment-295190</link>
		<dc:creator>lauredhel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 07:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*nod*, understood. And Santorum is so  obviously creepy and horrendous in so many other ways, related and unrelated. I just felt that the bit you picked out in this post wasn&#039;t creepy on its face at all - though people unfamiliar with stillbirth/neonatal death grief might find it so at first look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*nod*, understood. And Santorum is so  obviously creepy and horrendous in so many other ways, related and unrelated. I just felt that the bit you picked out in this post wasn&#8217;t creepy on its face at all &#8211; though people unfamiliar with stillbirth/neonatal death grief might find it so at first look.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin T. Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin T. Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Lauredhel:&lt;/strong&gt;

I take your point.

I still find Santorum&#039;s behavior just a little creepy (he keeps a picture of the dead fetus on his desk and points it out to visitors). It&#039;s hard to see it as a product of their feelings of anticipation as much as his constant insistence on dramatizing and politicizing everything having to do with his &quot;pro-life&quot; obsessions. (Would he really do that to his own family? He did it to Terri Schiavo, and there is literally nothing I would imagine is beyond his capacity for hatefulness and bad taste.)

But I can see that others would find that a way of honoring and acknowledging what they had been through. I didn&#039;t mean to be insensitive to such feelings. Thank you for making that point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Lauredhel:</strong></p>
<p>I take your point.</p>
<p>I still find Santorum&#8217;s behavior just a little creepy (he keeps a picture of the dead fetus on his desk and points it out to visitors). It&#8217;s hard to see it as a product of their feelings of anticipation as much as his constant insistence on dramatizing and politicizing everything having to do with his &#8220;pro-life&#8221; obsessions. (Would he really do that to his own family? He did it to Terri Schiavo, and there is literally nothing I would imagine is beyond his capacity for hatefulness and bad taste.)</p>
<p>But I can see that others would find that a way of honoring and acknowledging what they had been through. I didn&#8217;t mean to be insensitive to such feelings. Thank you for making that point.</p>
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		<title>By: lauredhel</title>
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		<dc:creator>lauredhel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 07:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Rick “Man on Dog” Santorum and his wife took a miscarried fetus home in a box, named it, and made their other children hold it.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m finding this rather out of place in your otherwise stellar-as-usual post. 

I gather, from googling, this was very much a wanted pregnancy that was lost at 20 weeks - a &lt;i&gt;stillbirth&lt;/i&gt; if past the 20 week mark, not a miscarriage. Many grieving families, whether the pregnancy has been ended through stillbirth or late-term abortion, choose to spend time with the lost fetus/baby/etc at this stage, and to name it. So long as the children were willing participants in this grieving process, I don&#039;t find this at all abnormal or odd. 

I would quite possibly go through a very similar process in the same situation (though without the Mass).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Rick “Man on Dog” Santorum and his wife took a miscarried fetus home in a box, named it, and made their other children hold it.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m finding this rather out of place in your otherwise stellar-as-usual post. </p>
<p>I gather, from googling, this was very much a wanted pregnancy that was lost at 20 weeks &#8211; a <i>stillbirth</i> if past the 20 week mark, not a miscarriage. Many grieving families, whether the pregnancy has been ended through stillbirth or late-term abortion, choose to spend time with the lost fetus/baby/etc at this stage, and to name it. So long as the children were willing participants in this grieving process, I don&#8217;t find this at all abnormal or odd. </p>
<p>I would quite possibly go through a very similar process in the same situation (though without the Mass).</p>
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