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	<title>Comments on: You Are a Housing Project for Fetuses</title>
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	<description>Bioethics, healthcare policy, and related issues.</description>
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		<title>By: Sufficient Scruples &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Fetus Christmas-Tree Ornaments . . . . (Oy vey! . . .)</title>
		<link>http://sufficientscruples.com/blog/2006/07/16/you-are-a-housing-project/comment-page-1/#comment-446548</link>
		<dc:creator>Sufficient Scruples &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Fetus Christmas-Tree Ornaments . . . . (Oy vey! . . .)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 01:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] latest entry in the &#8220;creepy personified fetus&#8221; category: the &#8220;Feti&#8221; &#8211; weird/cutesy Christmas-tree [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] latest entry in the &#8220;creepy personified fetus&#8221; category: the &#8220;Feti&#8221; &#8211; weird/cutesy Christmas-tree [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nulono</title>
		<link>http://sufficientscruples.com/blog/2006/07/16/you-are-a-housing-project/comment-page-1/#comment-317478</link>
		<dc:creator>Nulono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 06:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The woman is not pictured because the view is from the inside.

This one shows the woman:
http://www.faithmouse.com/noelia_large.gif</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The woman is not pictured because the view is from the inside.</p>
<p>This one shows the woman:<br />
<a href="http://www.faithmouse.com/noelia_large.gif" rel="nofollow">http://www.faithmouse.com/noelia_large.gif</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nulono</title>
		<link>http://sufficientscruples.com/blog/2006/07/16/you-are-a-housing-project/comment-page-1/#comment-317476</link>
		<dc:creator>Nulono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 06:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, you&#039;re the one who put the fetus there in the first place! However, let&#039;s assume your landlord wants to evict you. If he does it by ripping you to shreds and dragging your lifeless bits out the door, he has murdered you, even though he owns the apartment. The intended end of an abortion is a dead fetus, not an empty womb.

The hole in the uterus and the general misplacement baffles me. A botched abortion, perhaps?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you&#8217;re the one who put the fetus there in the first place! However, let&#8217;s assume your landlord wants to evict you. If he does it by ripping you to shreds and dragging your lifeless bits out the door, he has murdered you, even though he owns the apartment. The intended end of an abortion is a dead fetus, not an empty womb.</p>
<p>The hole in the uterus and the general misplacement baffles me. A botched abortion, perhaps?</p>
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		<title>By: Sufficient Scruples &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Newest Talking Fetus: Humorless, Nonsensical, and Insomniac</title>
		<link>http://sufficientscruples.com/blog/2006/07/16/you-are-a-housing-project/comment-page-1/#comment-108009</link>
		<dc:creator>Sufficient Scruples &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Newest Talking Fetus: Humorless, Nonsensical, and Insomniac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 19:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This week, however, Muir joined the creepy talking-fetus brigade of conservative &#8216;toonists. It&#8217;s been discussed before, but it&#8217;s apparently a growing meme on the right wing - fetal &#8220;personhood&#8221; taken to such a bizarrely literal extreme that they imagine fetuses as having fully-functional adult personalities, and sometimes adult bodies (and why not? - with all the retrograde scientific claptrap the right wing has latched onto, the homunculus theory is hardly out of place). This can&#8217;t be a coincidence. Literalizing the claim of fetal personhood distinctly changes the relationship between, and relative moral standing of, a woman and her fetus, to the detriment (need it be said?) of the woman. That this delusional characterization of pregnancy has become so common and so widespread of late signals another move in the ongoing assault on the effective moral personhood of women. Here is Muir&#8217;s contribution to the war: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This week, however, Muir joined the creepy talking-fetus brigade of conservative &#8216;toonists. It&#8217;s been discussed before, but it&#8217;s apparently a growing meme on the right wing &#8211; fetal &#8220;personhood&#8221; taken to such a bizarrely literal extreme that they imagine fetuses as having fully-functional adult personalities, and sometimes adult bodies (and why not? &#8211; with all the retrograde scientific claptrap the right wing has latched onto, the homunculus theory is hardly out of place). This can&#8217;t be a coincidence. Literalizing the claim of fetal personhood distinctly changes the relationship between, and relative moral standing of, a woman and her fetus, to the detriment (need it be said?) of the woman. That this delusional characterization of pregnancy has become so common and so widespread of late signals another move in the ongoing assault on the effective moral personhood of women. Here is Muir&#8217;s contribution to the war: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Personalizing the Fetus for Anti-Abortion Campaigns &#171; The Blog and the Bullet</title>
		<link>http://sufficientscruples.com/blog/2006/07/16/you-are-a-housing-project/comment-page-1/#comment-99282</link>
		<dc:creator>Personalizing the Fetus for Anti-Abortion Campaigns &#171; The Blog and the Bullet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 01:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Posted by Jack Stephens on June 13th, 2007  The  blogger at Unapologetically Female, Tracy, posts: Apparently, the situation is worse than I thought. Tigtog of Hoyden About Town has noticed that this anti-choice technique of personifying fetuses is not just an isolated event, but a trend.* She points us to another recent instance of this phenomenon described by Kevin T. Keith, and the comments from that post lead to one of his older posts showing yet another (maybe even creepier) fetal cartoon. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Posted by Jack Stephens on June 13th, 2007  The  blogger at Unapologetically Female, Tracy, posts: Apparently, the situation is worse than I thought. Tigtog of Hoyden About Town has noticed that this anti-choice technique of personifying fetuses is not just an isolated event, but a trend.* She points us to another recent instance of this phenomenon described by Kevin T. Keith, and the comments from that post lead to one of his older posts showing yet another (maybe even creepier) fetal cartoon. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mom-of-two</title>
		<link>http://sufficientscruples.com/blog/2006/07/16/you-are-a-housing-project/comment-page-1/#comment-13500</link>
		<dc:creator>Mom-of-two</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In answer to #1 Christina &quot;She’s a mother. An abortion isn’t an eviction; it’s killing. Her own child. Which makes even the worst slumlord look like Ghandi by comparison.&quot; 

Most women are capable of bearing a child, BUT, many of them are NOT Mothers.  Be careful of pinning
the word &quot;Mother&quot; on anyone because we can point to thousands of children who are maimed, neglected 
or killed AFTER they&#039;re born.  Where&#039;s the pro-life cartoon for that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In answer to #1 Christina &#8220;She’s a mother. An abortion isn’t an eviction; it’s killing. Her own child. Which makes even the worst slumlord look like Ghandi by comparison.&#8221; </p>
<p>Most women are capable of bearing a child, BUT, many of them are NOT Mothers.  Be careful of pinning<br />
the word &#8220;Mother&#8221; on anyone because we can point to thousands of children who are maimed, neglected<br />
or killed AFTER they&#8217;re born.  Where&#8217;s the pro-life cartoon for that?</p>
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		<title>By: Sophist</title>
		<link>http://sufficientscruples.com/blog/2006/07/16/you-are-a-housing-project/comment-page-1/#comment-13485</link>
		<dc:creator>Sophist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 07:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I am a lesbian and used to be liberal and pro-choice but began to have concerns because it seems like the ‘pro-choice’ movement was only defending one choice— the one that gives you a dead fetus and, 90% of the time, a woman who regrets having an abortion.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You&#039;ve got to be kidding! The reason that the pro-choice movement only defends the choice to abort is that &lt;i&gt;nobody is trying to amend the freaking constitution to remove your right to not abort&lt;/i&gt;! I mean, duh. Only things under attack require defending.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I am a lesbian and used to be liberal and pro-choice but began to have concerns because it seems like the ‘pro-choice’ movement was only defending one choice— the one that gives you a dead fetus and, 90% of the time, a woman who regrets having an abortion.</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;ve got to be kidding! The reason that the pro-choice movement only defends the choice to abort is that <i>nobody is trying to amend the freaking constitution to remove your right to not abort</i>! I mean, duh. Only things under attack require defending.</p>
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		<title>By: Dog Lover Dee</title>
		<link>http://sufficientscruples.com/blog/2006/07/16/you-are-a-housing-project/comment-page-1/#comment-13482</link>
		<dc:creator>Dog Lover Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 06:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m seven months pregnant and I&#039;ve never been more pro-choice than now. Pregnancy takes a huge toll on one&#039;s body and life, and if you aren&#039;t up for it, you shouldn&#039;t have to go through with it. 

If God REALLY wanted every fetus to live, he would have found a foolproof way for humanity to procreate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m seven months pregnant and I&#8217;ve never been more pro-choice than now. Pregnancy takes a huge toll on one&#8217;s body and life, and if you aren&#8217;t up for it, you shouldn&#8217;t have to go through with it. </p>
<p>If God REALLY wanted every fetus to live, he would have found a foolproof way for humanity to procreate.</p>
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		<title>By: lala the llama</title>
		<link>http://sufficientscruples.com/blog/2006/07/16/you-are-a-housing-project/comment-page-1/#comment-13467</link>
		<dc:creator>lala the llama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 23:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, and the binoculars totally and completely freak me out. EEEwww.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, and the binoculars totally and completely freak me out. EEEwww.</p>
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		<title>By: lala the llama</title>
		<link>http://sufficientscruples.com/blog/2006/07/16/you-are-a-housing-project/comment-page-1/#comment-13466</link>
		<dc:creator>lala the llama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 23:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing I don&#039;t get about anti-choicers: apparently in their view, life begins at conception and ends at birth. Otherwise they&#039;d show a little more substantive compassion for post-born children... like, say, universal healthcare, abolishing &quot;no child left behind&quot;, or even (heaven forbid) rebuilding New Orleans...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing I don&#8217;t get about anti-choicers: apparently in their view, life begins at conception and ends at birth. Otherwise they&#8217;d show a little more substantive compassion for post-born children&#8230; like, say, universal healthcare, abolishing &#8220;no child left behind&#8221;, or even (heaven forbid) rebuilding New Orleans&#8230;</p>
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